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that does it for this edition of 360. thanks for watching.
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congratulating the interim leader. well, the military wanted to show that it had broad support for its move. it insists this isn't a military
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coup. it insists it intervened for the sake of egypt and at the behest and will of the people. so it invited opposition leaders, religious leaders, members of civic society and secular society to the stage when it made this announcement. if you'd seen it, what was it now, some 12 hours ago, it looked at least like it was a military coup. you had the leader of the military, the defense minister, in full military attire making the announcement on state tv. but he was, as i say, surrounded by members of various groups trying to make this look like a very inclusive transitional period when he made the announcement to egypt and the rest of the world. mohamed elbaradei spoke for the opposition, calling this a new e era for the 2012 revolution,
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resetting the button, as it were, for egypt going forwards. well, tahrir square below me here this morning is relatively quiet. very quiet if you compare it to the scenes of just some 12 hours ago, when this announcement was made. then the square was absolutely packed. tens, hundreds of thousands if not a million people. more than you saw here in the 2011 revolution. and these were anti-government protesters. people who had staged these giant rallies in favor of a new dawn for egypt. and that is exactly what they got. now, well, it is much, much quieter. but as i went to bed about 3:30, 4:00 in the morning, it was too loud still to sleep. fireworks, the honking of horns. people were not prepared to go to sleep. not the same scenes as we saw in
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other parts of the city where there were boos and jeers because pro-morsi and pro-government supporters were absolutely distraught at what had happened last night. let me bring in ian lee. he's been covering this story for us here at cnn amongst our array of reporters on the story. and ian, a new day, a new dawn, but the future still very uncertain. >> it's very true. right now we have an interim government. and it is going to be tasked with performing a government of ministers, of technocrats to really turn around the problems egypt face now. egypt has a failing economy, a poor security situation. these are big problems at this new interim president's going to have to deal with. >> okay. he gets sworn in today. he's the chief of the constitutional court. not a man that many people around the world would have heard of. some even in egypt wouldn't have heard of him. but he is an interim president going forward until the new parliamentary and presidential
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elections. what of the former president, mohamed morsi? where is he this hour? >> well, we're hearing right now is that he is under house arrest. and we're also hearing that from the state news agency, that they're also rounding "up" to 300 other members of the muslim brotherhood. the head of human rights watch here in egypt has expressed concern over this, that this isn't what a democratic transition should look like. also a lot of concern over the closure of tv stations that supported president morsi. >> so what you're seeing is a military and a transitional board, as it were, saying this is by no means a coup, this is intervention for the good of the country. but it's from those who support the muslim brotherhood, which is the party that backed the former president, they say this is a coup in everything but name. >> that's exactly right. by definition what we saw yesterday was a coup. but if you talk to the supporters, they say that this was a popular uprising and that the government -- or the army was facilitating the transition to a civilian leader, that they
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were just helping the will of the people and not staging a coup to gain power themselves. >> so the question is where is egypt headed next? and in the very short term we get the new president in place today. this is thursday here in egypt. and then what? >> well, the first thing they're going to definitely need to do is security. security, security. you can't revive the economy without security. you can't do really anything. so it's to get the police back in the streets around egypt and also give people the sense that it's time to invest back in the country and turn the economy around. >> fascinating stuff. ian on the story for us today. ian lee for you. well, the reaction internationally has been a very, very interesting one. saudi arabia's king abdullah has welcomed the move by the military here. it appears at least that in
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saudi they see a new dawn. and regional reaction, we'll get it. mohammed jamjun is standing by in beirut. started with that reaction from saudi arabia. a surprise or not? >> reporter: well, surprising, becky, in that they issued the reaction as quickly as they did. usually, saudi arabia's a bit more cautious as far as issuing reactions to big moves like this. but the saudis came out quite boldly this morning as the big sunni regional power player, congratulating the new interim president in egypt. a statement from king abdullah of saudi arabia went on to say "we strongly shake hands with the men of all the armed forces, represented by general abdelfatah al sisi who managed to save egypt at this critical moment from a dark tunnel. god only could apprehend its dimensions and repercussions." no secret the saudis had been quite concerned the past few days about what was going to
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happen in egypt. today we've also heard from the united arab emirates. the uae issuing a statement in which they pointed out that the muslim brotherhood is a banned organization in the uae. they also said that they were following with great "satisfaction" the events that had transpired in egypt. in a sense basically, they're happy with what's happened, that the brotherhood president is out there now. but more interesting today has been the reaction of embattled syrian president bashar al assad. he took this moment to gloat. that's the only way you can really put it. syrian president bashar al assad saying that he had predicted this experiment put on by the brotherhood would fail. he went on to say, "this is why from the beginning i said that their project is a failure before it began, and this is what made the muslim brotherhood's experiment fall quickly, because it is wrong and what is built on a wrong principle will definitely fall." president al assad also said -- he called this experiment a political one of so-called
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political islam and said that it never could have worked. becky? >> fascinating, isn't it? perhaps not so surprising when you consider the egyptian president's, former president's calls for jihad in syria. what about the reaction from a country like qatar, for example? have we heard an official reaction from doha? because we do know that at least the qataris have been supporting what was the former government and former president here, mohamed morsi. any official announcement from doha this morning? >> reporter: it's a very good point you're making, becky. and the silence from cattar is absolutely telling. all eyes in the region qatar. why? because as you said, qatar had strongly backed the muslim brotherhood in egypt. they had invested billions of dollars in trying to prop up morsi and the muslim brotherhood there. they have so far not issued any
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statements. people are wondering because qatar is trying to be the regional power player. they have been making bold moves the last couple years when it comes to the arab spring, when it comes to egypt, when it comes to countries like syria and backing the rebellion. now everybody's wondering what are they going to say about morsi's ouster? how are they going to frame this? what are they going to do to try to get a foothold as far as the new egypt, this new dawn, new day that you're talking about, other people talking about as well? will qatar be able to influence what's going on there? what is their next move going to be? also telling, becky, is the silence so far from israel. israel was quite concerned after the election of mohamed morsi, wondering what the brotherhood's stance was going to be toward israel. would they maintain their relationship? how would that affect the delicate balance here in the middle east? now obviously we're waiting to hear what israel will say about these important developments in egypt. becky? >> yeah. amazing stuff. all right. mohammed jamjoom is in beirut this morning.
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we've got reporters all over the region. and just a reminder once again that the u.s. president, barack obama, and i quote, "concerned" about the overthrow of what he describes as a democratically elected leader. and he's absolutely right to have said that. a man who was democratically elected by about 51% of the voters here in egypt, deposed by the military just a year later. we will get reaction of course from washington as we move through the day today here thursday. for the time being, let's take a very short break here on cnn. back after this. 63
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at around quarter past 9:00 in cairo in egypt, welcome back to this special show here on cnn. i'm becky anderson. our top story this hour, the muslim brotherhood is under fire here in egypt. mohamed morsi, the former president, deposed by the military in the past 12 hours or so, is now under house arrest. the president's staff and members of the muslim brotherhood here in egypt have been arrested. as many as 300 have been arrested. throngs of protesters cheering the news by the military when it was announced on television here at around about 9:00 p.m. local
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time last night. but the announcement jeered by those who had gathered to support mohamed morsi and the government. morsi's supporters say that it was a coup. have a listen to some of what we heard last night. certainly you'll hear from the former egyptian general, al yazal, who explains why it wasn't. >> let me tell you, it's not a military coup. military coup meaning that the military will rule the country. and general al-sisi mentioned many times he has no intention to rule the country. that's number one. number two, this is not actually -- the army came because of the will of the egyptians. meaning that the opposition groups and rebels, young people group as well as 30 million egyptians came out in the street, which is the largest, and i repeat that, the largest ever in the modern history, a kind of demonstration at any
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country. >> it's not about mohamed morsi as a character. this is about the process of democracy itself. this is the very nature of what democracy's about. it's about representation. if one political faction is going to use the army's muscle to bully the rest out of the scene, at the end of the day this army is paid for by the taxpayers of egypt. it cannot take sides in political games. and that's exactly what they did. this is a full-fledged military coup. >> all right. let's find out what we think our next guest makes of all of this. aaron snyder is an assistant professor of middle east politics at the texas a&m university live with me in cairo this morning. thank you very much indeed for coming in. what do you make of all of this? is democracy dead in egypt? >> i think that's a bit premature. i think it certainly isn't. and i think the last three days have been profoundly historical. indeed, the last 2 1/2 years have been an extraordinary historical moment for egypt.
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and i think this is the latest permutation. i think the numbers that came out on sunday are testament to the fact that democracy is indeed not dead, that democracy is very much alive and very complicated. >> and very complicated. you make a very good point here because this situation where a democratically elected leader only a year ago has been ousted by the military it's been said of millions of people here in egypt, but he did still have some popular support. are we going to see this again and again and again? are we going to see people here in egypt decide they don't like he's running the country that they just ask the military to come out and get rid of him? >> this is an important question a lot of people are asking in egypt. a lot of analysts and scholars are scratching their heads about this moment as well. i think egyptians have defied popular conceptions of neat analyses of what democracy should be or what transitions look like. things are very fluid and moving very rapid will i and i think we have to wait and see how that unfolds. >> behind the scenes, is it really the military that is in
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charge and has always been in charge here in egypt? >> most people definitely, this is their line of thinking. i think even in the transition period of the last two years the military has played a behind-the-scenes role. the extent of that is something a lot of scholars and a lot of analysts kind of struggle to put their finger on, exactly to what extent that is. but they very much have been behind the scenes. >> what are we learning about the arab spring here, arab revolutions in other countries? does what we saw yesterday and over the past few days here in egypt bode well or poorly for other countries going forward? >> well, it depends on whose perspective, i think. if you're talking about entrenched authoritarian leaders, i think they are very worried and they have a right to be very concerned. for people in the region i think this is an enormously exciting and very encouraging moment. again, no one can attempt to kind of say what will or won't
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happen in the next few weeks. but in terms of bigger questions about democracy. and you know, a lot has been said about people's power and what does that really mean. and i think the numbers that came out sunday were really testament to people really, you know, for the first time in decades here really becoming more engaged in politics. >> erin, pleasure having you on. thank you very much indeed for your analysis. tumultuous times. if you consider that the muslim brotherhood in power here was an experiment regionally, then that experiment has been an abject failure. this was a group that has been looking for a goothold in politics across the region for 80 years. under the former regime of hosni mubarak they were given absolutely no chance. but within a year it seems that experiment has been decimated. what happens next will be absolutely fascinating. you're watching coverage of a new day, a new dawn for egypt.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." time to check the weather. there's been some extreme weather on opposite coasts of the u.s. heat wave in the west and ongoing flooding in the east. meteorologist ivan cabrera joins
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us now from the cnn weather center with the details on that. >> yeah, we've got a lot going on. it's just incredible here. the heat continues to build in the west. and we're going to continue to see rain in the east. take a look at some of the numbers here. we're still low to mid to upper 40s. this is of course celsius. we're talking well into the 100s in the fahrenheit scale here from, my goodness, pendleton to california. the heat just continues here. and there's not much in the forecast as far as any rainfall to alleviate that. this is what gets me. in the middle of the night 38 and 39 right now respectively from phoenix to las vegas. just oppressive heat. in phoenix we've at least allowed to expire the excessive heat warning. so we don't have that there. it's hot this time of year in phoenix. it's just not going to be as oppressive. but further to the west, that is when you start getting into the excessive heat warnings and just basically, you know the rules, if you're going to be outside an extended period of time, well, if you can do this, fantastic. head to the pool in vegas. that's going to feel mighty
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good. but if you are one of the ones that's going to be working today or spending extra time outside, keep yourself hydrated because this ridge of high pressure that has been dominating the pattern over the last several weeks at this point here is pretty much going to remain in place. and in the trough in the east, that's where you find the unusually cool and wet weather for this time of year. the jet should not be this far south. it should be well to the north. this is what we have here. a low-level jet, about 5,000 feet up, is streaming in. just incredible amounts of moisture from the gulf of mexico through the southern states and heading over to the ohio valley. that's going to continue throughout today. and this is going to rain heavily on top of what's already happened here, which is my goodness, anywhere from 200 to 400 millimeters of rainfall here. so more rain, more flooding on the way. and this is going to continue here from, again, pensacola heading up through atlanta, nashville, and heading up into that lexington as well as we have the flood watches that have been posted for the remainder of this fourth of july. there you see some flash flood
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warnings as well. those will likely increase throughout the day today. john, do you have an suv? >> i do. >> i may need some help getting out of the parking lot here at cnn. >> are we underwater again? >> yes. it's raining heavily outside as we speak. >> count on me. i'll take care of you. >> all right. >> talk again soon. thanks, ivan. in the past few hours bolivian president ivo morales arrived home from moscow tie hero's welcome. he was showered by confetti and cheered by crowds who believe mr. morales was the victim of an act of aggression by a number of european countries because they denied his jet overnight rights because they had suspicions that intelligence leaker edward snowden may have been on board. and as matthew chance reports, this diplomatic incident has sparked a furious reaction across latin america. >> reporter: on the streets of bolivia's capital there's outrage at western treatment of ivo morales, their popular socialist president. the bolivian media has been
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quick to blame his imperialist enemy. pressure from the united states, reads this headline, "forces european countries to threaten the president's life." bolivians see the refusal to allow the presidential plane to enter key european airspace as a national insult. >> translator: we came very early to offer up the newspapers and the day's news. the news about the president seems like a very bad incident. that countries discriminate, that cannot happen. they need to ask president morales for forgiveness. >> reporter: the bolivian leader had been traveling home from an energy summit in moscow when, according to bolivian officials, both france and portugal refused to allow the presidential plane to cross their airspace. the aircraft eventually landed in vienna, where president morales expressed his concern. >> translator: there has been no explanation as to why i was not allowed to fly over france, portugal, italy, and later spain
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too, because we had permission to land in the canary islands. >> reporter: later bolivian officials accused the united states of spreading a rumor that edward snowden was on board. just hours before president morales told russian television he would consider an asylum request by the fugitive u.s. security analyst. reaction to the incident across south america has been swift. in ecuador the country's foreign minister called it a huge offense against the bolivian leader and the entire region. in a statement the union of south american nations, unasur, condemned what it called "the dangerous act taken by france and portugal" and "the spread of malicious information that former cia agent edward snowden was traveling on this plane." among nations here in south america some fiercely opposed to u.s. foreign policy, this latest incident is being seen as an
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unprecedented insult. bolivia has called it an act of aggression. venezuela's president says it was disproportionate and unacceptable. at the request of ecuador's president rafael coria, a regional summit will convene to discuss a coordinated response. already there's deep sympathies in the region for edward snowden. bolivia along with venezuela and ecuador are seen as the countries most likely to grant him asylum. now the treatment of this south american president may toughen their resolve. matthew chance, cnn, quito, ecuador. >> and we should add, france has since apologized to bolivia. but the white house has declined to comment if it was involved in what is now being called jet aggression. meantime, the u.s. president is still working to smooth some frayed relations with european leaders after media reports linked to the edward snowden revelations detailed widespread spying by american intelligence on eu officials.
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mr. obama spoke with german chancellor angela merkel by phone on wednesday. both agreeing to hold a high-level meeting about this in the coming days. and the european parliament will decide today on a special committee to investigate the spying allegations. for the very latest now on the fallout from the edward snowden affair, fred fligpleitgen joins live from moscow. the french may be apologizing to the bolivian president but they remain very unhappy with the united states, calling for a delay in some very big trade talks. >> reporter: yeah, john, you're absolutely right. there's many people who actually believe it was quite strange for france to deny evo morales's plane the right to fly over its territory since the french have been the harshest critics of the u.s. and of course have even called for delaying talks on a trans-atlantic free trade agreement, which is a huge thing between europe and america. so quite an interesting position the french are taking. the french of course still very much at odds with the german as to what repercussions all of
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this will have in europe. as i said, the french are saying that trade talks to deepen ties between europe and america needs to be put off for at least two weeks. the germans say they're going to have none of that. they say all these talks need to go forward. the european commission says that as well. so there really isn't a common voice. the one thing the europeans are agreeing on, however, is that they are going to get together, form that committee, and talk about what they are going to do because of the nsa leaks that have been happening that of course have shown widespread internet eavesdropping by the nsa on european institutions and on the national governments in europe as well. quite a difficult position for the europeans to be in. on the one hand, there's widespread public support for ed snowden. on the other hand of course, the ties with the united states are very, very deep. meanwhile, here in russia the big question still remains, john, where is edward snowden going to go and when is he going to do so, john? >> okay, fred, thank you. fred pleitgen live for us in moscow with the very latest on the edward snowden affair. now, with egypt's military
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in control of the country, what are they hoping to achieve? we'll have analysis from cairo and doha, qatar coming up next. ] these are sandra's "homemade" yummy, scrumptious bars. hmm? i just wanted you to eat more fiber. chewy, oatie, gooeyness... and fraudulence. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one.
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welcome back to this special edition of "cnn newsroom." i'm becky anderson. live view here in cairo in egypt. at 9:30 local time. a new day, a new dawn for a country which is now at a watersh watershed, a time of tumultuous change. on wednesday the military here intervened in politics. the muslim brotherhood, the party that had been running the country for a year, and the president, the former president now, mohamed morsi, are out. members of the brotherhood and indeed morsi himself are under house arrest after their ouster on wednesday. the president, or the former president's staff and the muslim brotherhood members have been arrested. they say that this was a military coup.
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well, protesters who have been looking for this new day cheered the announcement from the military when it came at around 9:00 local time. jubilant about the removal of morsi from office. the military flying apache helicopters low over the square, tahrir square behind me, to cheers from the egyptian public, who only a year ago eventually sent them back to their barracks in disgrace after they'd been running the country in the interim period between the ouster of the former former president, as it were, hosni mubarak. morsi's supporters absolutely distraught over the announcement by the military that their man had been ousted. so what is the end game here, then, in egypt? there are some critical questions. not least, where is morsi at this time? what will happen to him next? and what does the military want
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for this country and its transitional government going forward? well, shari hamid, who is the director of research at brookings in doha, joining us now live. and it is i guess a very simple question but a complicated one to answer. what is the end game here for egypt's military? >> well, this was a classic textbook military coup, albeit one with popular support. understandably, many egyptian protesters don't like the term coup, but by definition this is what we're talking about. they will be dictating the terms of the road map going forward. they will want to have a civilian veneer. they have memories of last time they were in power when they faced a lot of anger from egyptians over their mismanagement of the country. so they'll want to dictate the
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overall terms of the process but avoid getting bogged down in the day-to-day administration. but let there be no doubt, the military is very much in control, and we can already see evidence of that with the widespread crackdown against the muslim brotherhood and morsi's supporters. as you mentioned, hundreds are -- have been arrested or are in process of being arrested. others are under house arrest. there have been reports of clashes over the course of the night with as many as ten dead, but it's hard to tell at this point. islamist television channels have been shut down. so on and so forth. >> so then i guess that begs the question, what does it all mean for not just egypt but the region? and for those who have been supporting democracy, nascent democracy across this region. certainly the united states says
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that they are very concerned about the ouster of what was a democratically elected leader. this was an experiment, wasn't it, to give the muslim brotherhood a chance to show that they could run a nascent democracy. and other countries across the region looking to see whether that experiment would work. it hasn't, has it? >> well, yes. i mean, it's failed, obviously -- it's failed because morsi's no longer in power. i mean, it's hard to really judge what this means, whether political islam succeeded or failed. morsi was only in power for a year. so not a lot can actually be done in a year one way or the other. for islamists this is going to stand as a defining moment in their history he along with previous key dates. 1954, where there was another military move against the brotherhood. the brotherhood was destroyed.
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this day will kind of last in islamist mythology as the day that their democratic gains were reversed. i'm worried about the implications of islamists saying we tried democracy, they wouldn't let us govern, maybe we have to try something else. and we have to be very concerned about how radicals will use this to justify their argument. al qaeda and others have been saying for years that democracy doesn't work, violence is the only way. so it's worth being very concerned about the implications. >> yeah. and i think you make a very good point. for those who supported this military intervention, and there are many millions here in egypt who saw that as the only solution. this is a good day. but we have to remember that this is not over and we could be looking at a very unsettled future going forward. just bring our viewers up to date on what is happening.
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we've just heard that the interim president will be installed in something like a half hour or so from now. at the supreme court. so that is news just coming in here to cnn. while i've got you, shadi, i just want to get your thoughts on where the regional players lie. saudi arabia congratulating authorities here on the demise of president morsi and this new dawn, as it were. that's no surprise, is it? the saudis weren't a supporter of the muslim brotherhood. nor were they a sufrpporter of president morsi. however, another regional power, qatar, where you are, certainly was. where do you see these reem'll power plays now? >> the saudis and emiratis in particular are ecstatic. this is something they were very much hoping for. they have a very tense relationship with the
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brotherhood. they see the brotherhood as upsetting the regional order. so for them this is very much welcome. and they've been explicit about that in their official responses. where others, who have been more supportive of the brotherhood and president morsi, such as turkey, have come out calling this a military coup and condemning it. >> all right. sorry. i seem to have lost communications with shadi there. but i hope our viewers, that you were still hearing his thoughts. out of doha this morning. it's a fascinating times here in egypt, in the region. and for the world at large. the u.s. state department, let's remind ourselves, says it is very concerned about the
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situation here in egypt. here's what a spokeswoman said just a little earlier in a daily briefing. "keep in mind the u.s. has a big financial interest here after the revolution that toppled hosni mubarak. u.s. president obama pledged $1 billion to egypt in may of this year, the u.s. releasing a big chunk of that aid, $250 million, with promises of more if morsi followed through on economic and political reforms." let me just see whether i can get you the sound from that briefing earlier today. >> it's important for president morsi to listen to the egyptian people and to take steps to engage with all sides. >> john doteros is in abu dhabi this morning for you. another one of cnn's assets, as it were, covering this story from every angle. let's just step back for a
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moment, john. we're going to take a look at the economic story here and the story of aid and investment going forward. but just firstly, your reaction to these fast-moving events. >> well, first and foremost, becky, i'm sure the business community in egypt is very happy about the swift transfer of power. 24 hours ago there was a signal that this could actually last for weeks, which would be the worst outcome for the business community because they had no idea where it's going. from a big picture, this has all transpired within the last 24 hours and we know that ald iman soour, who runs the supreme court, will be installed as the interim president within the past half hour, which is a good sign. the optics of how this was handled were very important. the general was front and center but he was flanked by al ansar the respected muslim institute in egypt and respected throughout the middle east, and also the head of the coptic church, the christians, and also
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mohamed elbaradei, the nobel laureate. the message was very clear here, becky. this will be a much more collective effort. if you thought the military was going to run things long term, you're mistaken. we want to do a transition to power. now, very importantly, we know the road map going forward. it was suggested 48 hours ago this would be a six-month transition. in the first transition it didn't last six months. it lasted over a year. so the road map needs to be reach out to the international community, get that u.s. aid unlocked going forward, go to the international monetary fund to try to get that $5 billion loan, and then move to restructure the constitution and then have elections. now, will it happen that smoothly? that is the key question going forward. i see that oil prices, for example, have stabilized. that is a very good sign. and number two, i would expect a stock market rally because the decisions by the military were indeed swift. becky? >> and going forward, we've talked about this sort of short
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term. you're expecting a rally in the markets. going forward, what do you make of the potential for investment as a whole? certainly if you can get the police back on the streets, that might encourage the tourists back into the country. long term, do you see this now as an investment opportunity that others for the past year or so have been dissuaded of? >> well, first and foremost, let's cover the issue you raised and that's tourism. i spoke to a very large tourism operator on the phone last night in egypt who has properties if sharm el-sheikh. he says bookings were down 15% in the first half of the year and i asked the reason why. he said because of security. nobody wants to travel not only to cairo but the red sea area because they don't think president morsi handled security very well. also the average spend by these tourists has been much lower than it's been in the past. the quality of the tourists have not been arriving in egypt because of the lack of security. the road map forward is very clear in terms of what they need to do. i nooid talked about the
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reaching out to the imf. i would suspect now, going back to the comments of shadi hamid coming out of doha that the gulf states here who are very sympathetic with this transition and the military will put up the first tranche of money in transition. the government only has $15 billion of reserves. that's more than half less than what they had prior to the revolution. that would last them about three months. so the gulf states have provided $12 billion in the last year. i would suspect they would be the first movers. they need to have the dialogue here with christine lagarde of the international monetary fund. also, becky, another clear point here from the u.s. in the statement that came out of the white house. president obama suggested they'd need to have a democratically elected government. they didn't suggest the democratically elected democratic government of president morsi here. so what the white house is looking for and why they suspended aid, they didn't want the military to take control and hold on to control. they would like to see a smooth transition. that's what the business community is looking at as well. they had phenomenal foreign direct investment before the
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revolution. $45 billion through t2011. after 2011, 2012 the total was only $4 billion and mostly in oil and gas. they need to get that fdi back in. they need to get security for tourists back in. and he they need to get the loans going forward as well. >> yeah. tough times. it's a big job. and we are look at the installation at least of a transitional president within the next half hour. that is a start. and let's hope for the sake of egypt that investors see that as a positive move and get backing going forward. we're going to take a very short break here on cnn. back after this.
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welcome back to egypt, where it is just about 9:45 in the morning here on thursday after what has been a tumultuous 12 hours or so. 48 hours if you really want to add it all up. but just about 12 hours ago the ouster, the deposing of the former president here, mohamed morsi overnight, arrests of some 300 members of the muslim brotherhood, cheers at the news from protesters here in tahrir square behind me overnight. but a lot of disappointment from those who were supporting the former government here. we will see the installation of a transitional president within the next half hour, we are told. and just news coming into cnn. the egyptian armed forces who have led this intervention
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effectively have confirmed that they will not allow any attacks of any form of intimidation against those who belong to islamic groups. they also confirm they will not exclude anybody, any faction from political life here going forward. much more from us from cairo in the hours to come. for the moment back to john vause in the studio. >> thank you, becky. and we'll check some other news which is out there right now. we have this just in to cnn. the republican u.s. senator john mccain has arrived in kabul on an unannounced visit. we are hearing from isaf that the senator is expected to present some awards to servicemen there and he will in fact hold a press briefing within the hour. meantime, prosecutors in a florida courtroom hammered away at the credibility of accused killer george zimmerman. he is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of trayvon martin. the prosecution is expected to end its case soon, perhaps as soon as this friday.
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and we've learned that a court in turkey has suspended the controversial building project that triggered weeks of violence. the protests last month were the biggest challenge to president recep tayyip erdogan in a decade. they began over plans to rebuild gezi park, the last green space in central istanbul, and turn it into a replica of ottoman barracks. the court ruled against those plans in early july, during the height of the violence. the information wasn't made public until now. a south african judge has intervened in a bitter mandela family feud, ordering the former president's grandson to return the bodies of mr. mandela's three deceased children. all this as the father of south african democracy fights for his life in a pretoria hospital, which is where nkebele mabuse is this thursday. and the judge was very scathing of mandela's grandson. what did he say? >> reporter: the judge in this
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case, john, absolutely scathing of nelson mandela's oldest grandson, manda mandela, calling his behavior scandalous. he also criticized the fact he did not appear in court in person to argue his case. we must also keep in mind, john, that manda mandela is also facing a criminal charge that was laid by members of his fleemt. family. a charge of tampering with graves. we're expecting in just an hour's time that he will hold a press conference in the eastern cape. and we will for the first time hear him defend himself in his own words, john. >> how does this all play into mandela's wishes for his final resting place? >> reporter: john, it has always been understood and accepted here in south africa that nelson mandela wants to be buried in gunu in the eastern cape. this is the village where he
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grew up. this is the village he speaks very fondly of. now, it appears as if his grandson wanted him to be buried in mvezo, the place where he was born. and now members of the mandela family, who actually took this application to court, are accused him of wanting this for self-serving reasons. of course he is the chief of that village in mvezo and he's in the process of turning it into a tourist attraction. and here in south africa many people suspect that he would be trying to add more value to mvezo by having his very famous grandfather buried there. john? >> okay. looks like it has now been resolv resolved. well, nkepile, thank you for nap nkepile mabuse live for us in pretoria. taking a short break here. you're watching "cnn newsroom." we'll be right back. has whole gs that can help remove some cholesterol, and that's heart healthy.
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from election to ejection. after one year in office, a dramatic exit in egypt for morsi. >> now that he is being pushed out, what is next for the country. hello, welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world for this special edition of "cnn news room." >> i'm becky anderson in cairo for you at 10:00 a.m. local time. thank you for joining us.

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